Rocafella Vs. G-unit
VS. 
So my friend and I have been going back and forth about which camp has the hottest rappers, Rocafella or G-unit. I personally think that Rocafella packs more heat than G-unit. With the the addition of Nas and Kanye the camp is full of talent. Also I tell people not to sleep on Memphis Bleek. I understand that Lloyd Banks and Hot Rod are pretty nice but I just think that fifty isn’t enough for them to surpass the Rocafella camp. If we were to do match ups this is how it would go. Of course Jay-z and 50 would cancel each other out, Lloyd banks and Kanye would be the next match up. Kanye has shown nothing but growth album after album. Young Buck and Beanie Segal are the next match up. I think this goes without saying, Beans hands down, I mean lyrically Buck is over matched. Memphis and Hot Rod, I think that Hot Rod would get the best of this match. Memphis and Yayo, hahahaha. That match up goes without saying. Rocafella, the name says it all, The Dynasty. What are your thoughts people?
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surprise surprise.. of course the group u chose to win was the roc. there are however 2 flaws in this article. flaw number 1, nas isnt roc a fella. he is signed to def jam. even tho jay, def jam, and the roc are all one in the same, nas belongs to def jam. flaw number 2, hot rod was dropped from g-unit months ago. now, if u realistically think kanye can even compete wit banks u r completely and utterly crazy. kanye, growth? my ass. kanye is consisten but he isnt any better now than he was with the college drop out. banks album wise kinda fell off. thats common knowledge. but, that doesnt dismiss the fact that he destorys every mixtape he gets on. lets be real, theres really no competition there. buck and beans, i cant just give it to beans w/o some new material even tho he has proven his lyrical ability. not saying buck hasnt cuz buck is raw but beanie and him are on almost different wave lengths. this bout undoubtedly goes to the unit for the simple fact that they are atleast one artist better than the roc.
The Unit. 50, Banks, and Buck are the truth. The Roc only got Jay and kanye. I’d rather listen to the Unit man. Also, here’s something to consider… The Unit is really only 4 years old and is already equal, if not better than the roc, with two of their major artist only being in their mid twenties, Banks (25), Buck (26). The Unit, all day, everyday.
Oh yeah, the Unit ends other rappers’ careers. Where is Jada, Fat Joe, Cam? And Ja doesn’t even exist anymore. While Nas himself put a dent in the Roc’s armor. And you’re probably saying “Game did the same to the Unit”, but it took Game about 1000 bars, a dvd, and thousands of other things to put a small dent in their armor. Plus, they make money off of Game. 50 made 4 million off of him last year, and just gave it away to the rest of the Unit. WOW
marquis chapman does his research.. maybe the guy writing the articles should as well lol
For one Nas is R.O.C. affiliated. Def Jam news reports that he will be making a transition from Def Jam to the R.O.C. and will be starting his own sub label. Research people you have to do it if you plan on commenting. Real talk T.C., the days of Lloyd banks being a lyrical rapper are pretty much over, I would rather listen to Kanye any day over Lloyd banks. To be honest its a G-unit theme. Hot first album and then garbage the second album. Consistency is what Kanye gives you. As far as Kayne’s growth, every album he puts out, he outsells his previous album. The same cant be said for any G-unit member (50 don’t count because he has done something crazy going diamond). As far as banks destroying every mixtape he has been on, he once was like that but now there are no punch lines worth talking about. Nothing about Lloyd banks stands out to anyone, I.E. why there is no buzz to hear anything from him, mixtape or cd. Beans hands down is definitely more lyrical that young buck. Buck has a nice swag but never says anything to make you scratch your head. The R.O.C. wins this battle no question about it.
Now as I make my way down this list of G-unit lovers, Marquis Chapman, 50 and Jay cancel each other out. Now lets break down what makes a nice Emcee. 1.) Lyrical ability. 2.) Swag. 3.) Record sells. 4.) fan base. Now given this list, Lloyd banks is no longer is lyrical anymore. Perfect example of getting money and losing his hunger. Record sells, well……….no comment, you at least have to be platinum on your albums in order to be commented on. Bottom line Lloyd banks most likely will not put out another album and if he does, it wont move any units. Buck is nice, but doesn’t have really any lyrical creativity. He can ride a beat but nothing makes you want to rewind and listen to again. Beans definitely is a better over all artist than Buck. O, by the way lets not forget about the young boy, Lupe. Platinum as well. Face it man, The Unit was hot for a minute mostly due to 50 but they cant sustain that type of quality by themselves and this is proven in both artist (Banks and Buck) last CDs. As far as “Them” killing careers, “they” never killed anything. 50 cent was the one who was a career ender, and at, that the people they killed were already dead, Jada, Cam, and Fat Joe. None of these artist were anywhere near the caliber of any of the artist that I have mentioned. Killing those careers was easy to do because The Unit was so hot. As far as The Game he did more than make a dint in the armor of The Unit. He did and will destroy anyone in that group by himself. Just listen to the freestyles. But you are right, 50 is getting paid off him. Bottom line the R.O.C. has more weapons than The Unit. Like I said before, the name speaks for itself, The Dynasty, They Will Not Lose
P.S. Hot Rod is still signed to G-unit, He will be releasing his album late 07′ or early 08′. It will be entitled “Fast Lane”. He also just released a mixtape under G-unit called the “Hit Man” that was released in August. With this being said,Real Talk T.C. the person witting these articles DOES DO HIS RESEARCH, you should take your own advise.
Straight from hip-hops teacha krs-one.. now, if u dont take this dudes word into consideration maybe rap music/hip-hop aint wut u really like….
By KRS-ONE
At the 2007 Hip Hop Honors I was asked by AllHipHop.com about my musical
preferences this year—50 Cent or Kanye West? I chose 50 Cent. At the time my answer was spontaneous and said without much thought. It was simply a quick honest answer. However, the next day I get a Google alert that somehow my comments “dissed Kanye West”. This could not be further from the truth. As I’ve said repeatedly and on many occasions, “rap is something we do; Hip Hop is something we live”, and when you
ask KRS about his musical choices his answers are going to reflect the life that he (KRS) actually lives. If I have to compare 50 Cent’s album “Curtis” with Kanye West’s album “Graduation” I am more motivated by “Curtis” than I am “Graduation”. Of course, I
totally respect “Graduation” and what it means to and for Hip Hop. But personally, I relate more to 50 Cent’s subject matter more than I do Kanye’s.
I like both albums. I personally went to Circuit City and bought two copies of each album the day they came out and listened to them both. After listening to both albums I found myself rewinding several of 50 Cent’s tracks—track 2, track 3, track 4, the rhyme style on track 5, track 12, the joint with Mary-track 15, track 16 and track 17. For me, ALL THAT SHIT WUZ HOT! On the other hand, when I listened to Kanye’s album I found myself rewinding only track 1, track 6, and track 10. Honestly, I felt that Kanye’s album related more to women whereas 50’s album related more to men, maybe that’s why I gravitated more toward 50’s album? Maybe I’m just too “old skool?” Maybe I’m just a New York nigga at heart? Maybe I’m still stuck on that “gun talk?” Whatever. In any event, I totally respect Kanye’s message and his album was clearly a breath of fresh air for Hip Hop. Even Kanye’s musical production style was superior to 50’s in my opinion. But for motivation, hard beats and rhymes, or when I’m driving through the “hood” for me 50 Cents album “Curtis” simply delivered more “bang” for the buck.
When I stated that I preferred 50’s album over Kanye’s album the Allhiphop.com interviewer seemed shocked and surprised. This caused me to think about my response a little more. Why did I choose 50 Cent? I began to think about this with more depth. First, when it comes to Hip Hop and its cultural preservation we must never equate record sales with artistic excellence. Just because Kanye out-sold 50 Cent does not mean that Hip Hop as a community has made a choice as to its cultural direction. In fact, I would argue that Kanye out-selling 50 Cent has more to do with the record buying public’s demand for more soulful, thoughtful and innovative music than it has to do with Hip Hop making a statement about itself. Hip Hop is about the mood of the streets; all of it, the so-called “conscious” streets as well as the so-called”gangsta” streets. True Hip Hop (cultural Hip Hop) is not about the selling of a CD. So one must ask, did Hip Hop buy Kanye’s album or did the American public buy Kanye’s album?
Secondly, let us not equate the “conscious” Hip Hop movement with CD sales. Remember, we are still getting ripped-off contractually by those corporations that exploit and sell our music with nothing going back toward Hip Hop’s actual preservation. Just because you put out a “conscious” album does not mean that you are a “conscious” person. Your album presentation does not make you an “activist” or a “gangsta”. It is your actions in real life that determine your propensity for revolutionary thought or rebellious activity. The questions are; what have you done with your success to support and preserve Hip Hop’s actual cultural preservation? How does Hip Hop’s existing organizations benefit from your success? If 50 Cent actually builds Hip Hop’s museum/archive with the money and influence made from his “gangsta” music and Kanye (as an example) buys more Gucci and gold chains with his money and influence who has really served the
culture? Please, let us keep things in perspective here.
Finally, let me make this last point very clear. KRS ONE is an artist that has produced both “Criminal Minded” as well as “Edutainment” and this is what I have found to not only be the key to my own professional longevity, this is also what has kept Hip Hop itself vibrant and self-sustaining for over 30 years. Hip Hop thrives upon its variety of styles and diversity of ideas. Remember, Hip Hop is a continuous international urban conversation; it is not a dictated lecture or a one-sided statement. It is an on-going urban discussion about life and living expressed through art and culture. EVERYTHING ABOUT HIP HOP IS GOOD! Our music and art reflects life itself.
When I hear artists like 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Camron, Jadakiss, Snoop Dogg, etc I hear courage, fearlessness and victory over the streets. And when I hear Kanye West, Common, Talib Kweli, etc I hear vision, innovation, and the pursuit of life’s higher ideals. ALL OF THIS IS HIP HOP! And all of it is good. ALL OF IT! Not one style over another or one style better than another. All of it together is Hip Hop, and you will not have true Hip Hop without this balance of ideas and expressions. Hip Hop cannot be one thing or it will cease to exist as Hip Hop. The key word here is BALANCE, and I am proud to say that in 2007 with the release of 50 Cent’s “Curtis” and Kanye West’s “Graduation” Hip Hop has achieved such a balance. The struggle now is to convince mainstream media to honor such a “balance” in its public presentations of our culture and lifestyle. Yes, I remain Hip Hop’s “teacha” and authentic cultural voice; and yes, I will continue to promote both spiritual and political thought through Hip Hop. Like most people I too seek the “Good Life”, but let’s just keep it really real; “NIGGA MY GUN GO OFF!”
Big respect to both Kanye and Curtis!
KRS ONE—the Teacha
http://allhiphop.com/blogs/editorial/archive/2007/10/09/18707533.aspx
check out the youtube of krs-one as well..
I agree completely with KRS-ONE. Both styles are good because they are Hip hop. He feels one over the other because he is a New York Nigga. Thats fine, but you know as well as I know, Hip Hop is about change, being and doing something different than the norm. Everyone talks about murder, broads, and cash. This also applies to Kanye but the difference is he gives you another side to look at, a more conscious one.
Kanye is a conscious rapper? Anyway, um, about Kanye’s “growth”… Growth = Record Sales? Since when? Many artists have gotten either better or worse and their record sales are no way indicative of their talent and/or growth. Of course this is once again a matter of taste and or one’s bias one way or the other.
Yes Kanye Kanye is a more conscious rapper than 50, just look at songs like Diamonds are forever, Jesus walks, and Heard Um Say, Listen to them and you will see what I am talking about. To answer your question about growth, how would you measure an artist Growth real talk T.C.?
I would measure an artists growth as them getting better. Lyrically, subject matter, and artistry (meaning, the songs they put out, how they are put together, and the noticeable, good differences from a prior album). Not saying Kanye hasn’t done maybe 1 out of those 3 criteria but he doesn’t meet them all. Not saying 50 has either but in his defense he has appealed to a larger audience (and if that means poppy female tracks, in some regards, so be it). Examples of artists and their growth, and check on em to see what i mean, Joe Budden, Wayne, Royce 5’9, and Eminem…
I couldn’t agree more. I would completely agree with some of the artist you mentioned with the exception of Royce 5’9 and Joe Buddens. Buddens only had one cd which was cool but hasn’t put anything out in like four years. Along with that he gets dropped from Def Jam. Royce 5’9 hasn’t put out anything since 05′. So maybe a better example would be in order, like Young Jeezy or Obie Trice. As far growth goes, Kanye has shown this in songs from his first and second album. Just look at the switch between songs like Role Call and Let Down, to Diamonds are forever and We Major. Completely different subject matter but the hot songs with the requirements that you said would show growth. I would agree that the last album wasn’t as lyrically filled with punchlines as the two previous ones, but Kanye was going in a different direction with this album.
like i said, check up on the artists i mentioned. the the 2007 joe budden is way better than 1st lbum relese joe budden. album relesaes and album sales and getin droped from def jam does not define that. like i said, check up on him if u dont believe me. he kills mixtapes. he is probably, lyrically, one of the top 8 artists out right now. check up on him if u dont believe me. royce hasnt dropped a mainstream album since 05 but is a better artist today then he was back then. once again check out his mixtapes. the bar exam is a classic. ALBUM SALES AND MAINSTREAM ALBUM RELEASES DO NOT DEFINE GROWTH. these dudes are better than half the mainstream artists out right now. kanye west isnt even on these dudes’ radar. these 2 guys have grown as artists. check up on em and get back to me. datpiff.com if u need to find these guys’ mixtapes..
Thats fine and all but there is a difference between mixtape growth and album growth I.E. Lloyd banks before hunger for more. Mainstream albums do hold wait because this is what you put out to the world. You have to come through those albums. I will look them by the way.
I thought we were talking about overall growth as an artist. Whether they are growing mainstream as an artist or by mixtapes, is it or is it not growth? And correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the growth on mixtapes indicative of growth on albums? What are mixtapes but practice? The album is a game and if you practice like you play, your album will speak for itself.. And! You know as well as I do that artists hold back on mainstream albums as opposed to mixtapes because they want to appeal to the masses instead of just the streets.
Growth on mixtape actually aren’t indicative of one another just take a look at artist like Lloyd Banks and Fabulous. Murder the mixtape scene but when it comes to an album the skills just isn’t there. I don’t feel artist hold back on albums vs. their mixtapes. However I do feel that they do hold back on their singles. The album as a whole I believe is concurrent with their skills for the most part as an artist, at least it should be. An artist should never been known for being hot on only mixtapes. Their growth and skills should parallel.
So, artists like Banks and Fab aren’t holding back on their albums? You just said urself that they kill the mixtape scene but their albums arent what we expect. They appeal to different audiences when it comes to a mixtape and an album. That’s apparent. Lil’ Wayne as well. They do safe tracks for the album with an occasional joint or two that knocks for the streets. Albums that are too street these days don’t do well cuz people want dance music, something to bump in the club. Mixtape tracks as hot as they are, aren’t for that. But it is possible for an artist to grow skill wise but their albums are weaker than their mixtapes. You know as well as I do that that’s the case a lot of the time.
They do safe singles or they should. Take for example artist like Jay-Z and fifty. They both give you singles that are “mainstream friendly” but for the real hip hop fans they give you the heat on the rest of the album. They don’t hold back on a whole album.
THE ROC GOT THIS HANDS DOWN..
50 VS JAY= JAY
JIGGA BEEN HOLDIN IT DOWN SINCE 98 HE’S THE KING OF NY..50 WAS HOT FOR GRODT BUT LIL BY LIL OVER TIME IS LOSIN IS BUZZ..
BANKS VS BEANS= BEANS
THEY BOTH DA DUDES DAT GET AT NIGGAS WHEN NIGGAS TRY GOIN AT HOVA OR 50 SO ILL PUT THEM AGAINST EACH OTHA..AND EVEN THO BEANS LIKE BANKS HAVE THERE MOMENTS AT TIMES THEY NEVA SEEM 2 TAKE IT BUT BEANS TAKES IT JUST LOOK AT WHAT HE DID 2 JADA..
YAYO VS BLEEK= BLEEK
BLEEK CAN ACTUALLY SPIT YAYO IDK IS JUST WACK 2 ME.
DATS REALLY IT IF U WANNA REALLY WANNA SAY G UNIT VS ROC SINCE BUCK AINT DOWN N MOST OF DA PPL DAT WAS DOWN WITH DA UNIT AS FAR AS DA ROC U STILL HAVE DA GUNNAZ WHICH YOUNG CHRIS CAN SPIT,FREEWAY DOES HIS THING,IM NOT SURE IF PEDDI DOWN,AND KANYE IS BASICALLY KANYE HIS OWN LANE WHICH MEAN $